This podcast was originally hosted by Risky.Biz and is brought to you by the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. It’s the second in a series of podcasts about cyber policy and features both Eric Rosenbach and Robert M. Lee talking about ICS security.

The Foundation funds a lot of interesting people and work in the cybersecurity space. In this podcast series, Risky.Biz talks to Hewlett’s grant recipients, or experts in Hewlett’s network, about pressing policy issues and turn those conversations into podcasts. The idea is to get some policy perspectives out there among the Risky Business audience, which, funnily enough, includes a lot of policymakers.

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